2008 FEH, MMH Info?
#42
Re: 2008 FEH, MMH Info?
Originally Posted by WaltPA
Though, if the cross bars are indeed back again on the MMH for '08, then it would follow that Ford is admitting their strategy was flawed. That there really isn't a measurable difference in MPG with and without the cross bars.
BTW, I have two pairs of racks in my garage (2005/2006) if anyone needs/wants them. I'll let anyone on here have them for the cost of the shipping.
#43
Re: 2008 FEH, MMH Info?
Hmmm...kinda to believe that the amount of drag caused by the crossbars compared to the cross section of the front of the vehicle, would make a difference MPG wise that one could measure in a tank of gas.... over months, maybe.
I kept mine because I thought an SUV should look like one and have them . On the other hand. I'm taking them off for winter so I don't have to scoop snow around them.
I kept mine because I thought an SUV should look like one and have them . On the other hand. I'm taking them off for winter so I don't have to scoop snow around them.
#44
Re: 2008 FEH, MMH Info?
VERY GENEROUS OF YOU RAY!
While I have mine off for 80% of the year, I plan to go skiing this winter, so mine will finally go to good use! I do like how easy they come on/off.
For the record, at the Ford Hybrid Open House ( as I like to call it ) in Dearborn MI last October, engineers did say taking the bars off would help. They said even using the radio/Nav costs you 0.1 MPG! The roof bars probably 0.3 MPG.
BTW, I have two pairs of racks in my garage (2005/2006) if anyone needs/wants them. I'll let anyone on here have them for the cost of the shipping.
While I have mine off for 80% of the year, I plan to go skiing this winter, so mine will finally go to good use! I do like how easy they come on/off.
For the record, at the Ford Hybrid Open House ( as I like to call it ) in Dearborn MI last October, engineers did say taking the bars off would help. They said even using the radio/Nav costs you 0.1 MPG! The roof bars probably 0.3 MPG.
Originally Posted by nitramjr
BTW, I have two pairs of racks in my garage (2005/2006) if anyone needs/wants them. I'll let anyone on here have them for the cost of the shipping.
#45
Re: 2008 FEH, MMH Info?
Originally Posted by Tim K
I don't know that it will be applicable as it seems the 2008 will have different motors. Different motors means different settings/programming.
#46
Re: 2008 FEH, MMH Info?
Originally Posted by nitramjr
BTW, I have two pairs of racks in my garage (2005/2006) if anyone needs/wants them. I'll let anyone on here have them for the cost of the shipping.
#47
Re: 2008 FEH, MMH Info?
Originally Posted by TeeSter
Hmmm...kinda to believe that the amount of drag caused by the crossbars compared to the cross section of the front of the vehicle, would make a difference MPG wise that one could measure in a tank of gas....
It's hard to believe that driving in L would increase mileage but it does. Hard to believe adding a couple PSI to the tires would increase mileage but it does. Hard to believe using headlights lowers mileage or running around with a couple hundred extra pound does too but it does.
Incremental changes add up. Any drag added to a vehicle will require power to overcome. Even if it is a miniscule amount like 0.1 mpg, I'll take it.
In 15 years of flying planes I have learned that parasitic drag is the enemy. Having two useless crossbars on the roof does nothing but contribute to drag - especially if they will never be used. Why have them on there? If they contributed to safety like the right hand rear view mirror then they would be earning their keep but they do nothing for me and thus had to go......
Your mileage may vary.....
#48
Re: 2008 FEH, MMH Info?
Originally Posted by nitramjr
Incremental changes add up. Any drag added to a vehicle will require power to overcome. Even if it is a miniscule amount like 0.1 mpg, I'll take it.
I also wonder if the pre-07 FE design vs. the MM design, makes a difference?
#49
Re: 2008 FEH, MMH Info?
Originally Posted by WaltPA
The hybrid's motors are changing for 2008? I didn't catch that.
#50
Re: 2008 FEH, MMH Info?
Can lithium ion batteries accept the HIGH (re)charge rate of the current batteries?
How many owners know that putting stuff on the roof rack makes an already (compariably) unstable vehicle even more unstable?
The cross bars for my 2001 AWD RX300 have been stored since the day I bought it.
How many owners know that putting stuff on the roof rack makes an already (compariably) unstable vehicle even more unstable?
The cross bars for my 2001 AWD RX300 have been stored since the day I bought it.