2006 Escape Hybrid: Catastrophic Engine failure @ 65,000 miles
Wmmaness: the only difference between the Otto & Atkinson cycle engines is the intake camshaft. I wouldn't expect that dramatic a drop in mileage just from the different cam. There is a learning curve for the software in the engine. Track it for awhile and see if it rises.
Stevedebie:
"@Bill Winney, I had no warning or indicator lights of any sort. If it had gotten hot, wouldn't I have had something light up?"
Of course it has a sensing mechanism for water temps. It just doesn't have the traditional gauge.
Wmmaness: the only difference between the Otto & Atkinson cycle engines is the intake camshaft. I wouldn't expect that dramatic a drop in mileage just from the different cam. There is a learning curve for the software in the engine. Track it for awhile and see if it rises.
"@Bill Winney, I had no warning or indicator lights of any sort. If it had gotten hot, wouldn't I have had something light up?"
Of course it has a sensing mechanism for water temps. It just doesn't have the traditional gauge.
Wmmaness: the only difference between the Otto & Atkinson cycle engines is the intake camshaft. I wouldn't expect that dramatic a drop in mileage just from the different cam. There is a learning curve for the software in the engine. Track it for awhile and see if it rises.
If anyone has a shop manual that indicates a water sensor, please feel free to step in any time...
Of course it has a sensing mechanism for water temps. It just doesn't have the traditional gauge.
Wmmaness: the only difference between the Otto & Atkinson cycle engines is the intake camshaft. I wouldn't expect that dramatic a drop in mileage just from the different cam. There is a learning curve for the software in the engine. Track it for awhile and see if it rises.
Wmmaness: the only difference between the Otto & Atkinson cycle engines is the intake camshaft. I wouldn't expect that dramatic a drop in mileage just from the different cam. There is a learning curve for the software in the engine. Track it for awhile and see if it rises.
being buried behind the timing chain at the front of the engine?
I've not heard anyone reporting any problem with such a thing.
Tradition Otto engines have them and they are always something
that goes bad at the worst of times.
How about looking for evidence of mounting bracketry for either a starter or an alternator? The FEH motor would have neither.
Without looking at an I4 Escape (in person or a shop manual) I wouldn't know where or how they mount. Just know that the FEH doesn't have them
Without looking at an I4 Escape (in person or a shop manual) I wouldn't know where or how they mount. Just know that the FEH doesn't have them
what's called a "box engine" or "short block". It comes on
a wooden palate. Accessories like alternators and starter
motors would not be included. To me it's just such an
easy error to make. Somebody told the parts manager
to get a Duratech I 4 for an Escape and that's what
he/she got. As mentioned here the only difference is
the cam. It will be really interesting to see how this
all plays out.
I think, I think they way it's done is the dealer would buy
what's called a "box engine" or "short block". It comes on
a wooden palate. Accessories like alternators and starter
motors would not be included. To me it's just such an
easy error to make. Somebody told the parts manager
to get a Duratech I 4 for an Escape and that's what
he/she got. As mentioned here the only difference is
the cam. It will be really interesting to see how this
all plays out.
what's called a "box engine" or "short block". It comes on
a wooden palate. Accessories like alternators and starter
motors would not be included. To me it's just such an
easy error to make. Somebody told the parts manager
to get a Duratech I 4 for an Escape and that's what
he/she got. As mentioned here the only difference is
the cam. It will be really interesting to see how this
all plays out.
GaryG
After looking at the pictures of that block, I don't think there's any core value other than recycling price for a hunk of aluminium.
WMManess: the way I track fuel is I get the print out receipt from the gas pump & write the odo number on it. Then put this info into a spreadsheet & have the s/s calculate the mpg. Thus I have a long term s/s set of numbers telling me the health of my engine.
Done this for 432,000 miles on my Suburban & 254,000 miles on my Mustang... Gives me a good idea of what's up inside the engine.
Done this for 432,000 miles on my Suburban & 254,000 miles on my Mustang... Gives me a good idea of what's up inside the engine.
Regarding the temperature sensing mechanism issue:
you have entirely missed the point.
One of the crankshaft bearings is "far away" from any kind of temp sensing mechanism and just wouldn't give any warning of impending failure. Similarly the failure mechanism is fast and would happen so quickly that any warning would be just recounting history.
So even if the warning light came on in the instrument cluster it wouldn't have served any useful purpose since the damage would have been done.
Of course my use of "far away" above is in a relative sense.
you have entirely missed the point.
One of the crankshaft bearings is "far away" from any kind of temp sensing mechanism and just wouldn't give any warning of impending failure. Similarly the failure mechanism is fast and would happen so quickly that any warning would be just recounting history.
So even if the warning light came on in the instrument cluster it wouldn't have served any useful purpose since the damage would have been done.
Of course my use of "far away" above is in a relative sense.
WMManess: the way I track fuel is I get the print out receipt from the gas pump & write the odo number on it. Then put this info into a spreadsheet & have the s/s calculate the mpg. Thus I have a long term s/s set of numbers telling me the health of my engine.
Done this for 432,000 miles on my Suburban & 254,000 miles on my Mustang... Gives me a good idea of what's up inside the engine.
Done this for 432,000 miles on my Suburban & 254,000 miles on my Mustang... Gives me a good idea of what's up inside the engine.



