110V Power Question

Old Aug 19, 2009 | 09:15 AM
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So we are headed camping this weekend and I am curious if the power outlet runs off the car battery or the hybrid battery?

How long do you think something can run off the outlet in either case? I'd hate to plug in something (coffee maker, etc) for a while and end up with a dead car that won't start come Sunday morning.

Thanks in advance.
 
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 09:18 AM
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I don't have any firsthand experience, but try this thread:
https://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/...ry-power-6752/
 
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 10:36 AM
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Also it is important to look at the draw of whatever you're plugging into the factory supplied 110V outlet. There is a limit to what it will do.

I don't think it will run something with a substantial heating element like some coffee makers do. I know mine refused to power my small(ish) shop vac when I went to vacuum it out.
 
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 12:59 PM
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The 110vac outlet is only powered with the key on. One of the 12v outlets is on regardless and the other is powered only when the key is on.

The 110vac outlet is limited to 150 watts. With the key on the traction battery powers the 12v system until it reaches its low limit. The relay contactors then open and the 12v battery takes over until it dies.

Hope your coffee can get hot enough on 150 watts…
 
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Winney
The 110vac outlet is only powered with the key on. One of the 12v outlets is on regardless and the other is powered only when the key is on.

The 110vac outlet is limited to 150 watts. With the key on the traction battery powers the 12v system until it reaches its low limit. The relay contactors then open and the 12v battery takes over until it dies.

Hope your coffee can get hot enough on 150 watts…
If the key is turned all the way on (i.e., the "Vehicle capable of operation icon on the lower right of the dash is GREEN), the engine will come on to recharge the traction battery. So I think you would be OK so long as the FEH has gas... of course, the engine would also come on if the catalytic converter gets too cold.

However, I think the fuse would break if you plug in a coffee pot, which runs to several hundred watts. I don't think it would simply continue to supply power at 150 watts - but I have never tried it in an FEH.
 

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Old Aug 19, 2009 | 02:29 PM
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Sorry I was using coffee pot as an example. I think 150W is more than enough to run a small tv though???
 
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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The engine only starts and runs if you go thru the run position to the start position and then return it to run.

I would think a small tv might be OK, look at the nameplate label for total wattage.
 
Old Aug 20, 2009 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by trekwars2000
Sorry I was using coffee pot as an example. I think 150W is more than enough to run a small tv though???
I'm sorry, I must have read incorrectly--I thought you said you were going camping in your post above but that's obviously not the case if you're bringing a TV...
 
Old Aug 20, 2009 | 07:28 PM
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TIP:

Your HV battery has approx.150 watt-hours to "give" in normal operation.
Thus, you could run a 150 watt appliance for exactly 1 hour between recharges with the gas engine. If you leave the key in run, the car will cycle every few minutes to keep the engine hot, even though the HV battery is mostly full.

TIP: Manually turn the key on and off and run the engine for 5 minutes each hour to keep the batteries topped off, and to use the least amount of gas.

HTH,
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 05:42 AM
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John, how did you determine that 150 w-hrs?
 

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