What about non hybrids with high mpg ?
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My brother in law, who is a a Toyota salesman insists that it's a waste of $ to buy a hybrid. He says there are many autos that will give you 40mpg or better and cost far less. He gives examples like the 2009 Corolla, and the VW Golf.
I don't know what to make of this. I just want to maximize what it costs to fuel up and not do it in a "clown" car.
I don't know what to make of this. I just want to maximize what it costs to fuel up and not do it in a "clown" car.
Yeah, it's weird.
For many people; Prius = "clown car". So therefore, why spend the extra money when you could just by a Neon?
I've given up trying to explain to folks that one needs to compare apples to apples. I think that my '06 Prius compares pretty favorably in terms of physical stats; wheelbase, interior room, cargo capacity, amenities, A/C, stereo, CD changer, etc., to the midsize Ford Taurus that I drove for seven years and then traded for it. But few people possess the brain cells needed to make the same mental leap. They have a mental image of the Prius that cannot be altered.
This perception is so strong that apparently even Toyota salesmen hold it in their heads. Perhaps they're right and it's you and me, tolly, who are crazy, but I'm pretty sure I took the "Red Pill".
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As long as we use the same ruler, the same scale when comparing vehicles, I'm a happy camper. I just have a hard time dealing with imprecise measurements based upon the driver.
Bob Wilson
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I could be wrong, but I think the OP's reference to "clown car" is in regards to not looking like a bunch of clowns getting out of a tiny car. I don't think he meant it to denigrate hybrids.
I think the Metro falls into the clown car category.
"Normal looking" hybrids should fit the bill, depending on what kind of driving the OP has in store for his car.
I think the Metro falls into the clown car category.
"Normal looking" hybrids should fit the bill, depending on what kind of driving the OP has in store for his car.
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Your brother in law needs to learn his product better. Shame on the sales manager, general manager and owner of a business that allows an uneducated person sell their product.
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Had one explain to a friend that the foil lined insulation tacked to the underside of the hood was a "Thermo-nuclear pad". How funny is that!
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I'm an older guy who remembers the basis for the original standard. Even now, I live in North Alabama and have kin in Kansas and Oklahoma. So I know and have recently driven through towns with 25 miles per hour speed limit everywhere. So if I had a choice, I'd go with the original EPA mileage that also seems to match the Japanese and other foreign government standards. The new one is a little too inefficient for my tastes.
As long as we use the same ruler, the same scale when comparing vehicles, I'm a happy camper. I just have a hard time dealing with imprecise measurements based upon the driver.
Bob Wilson
As long as we use the same ruler, the same scale when comparing vehicles, I'm a happy camper. I just have a hard time dealing with imprecise measurements based upon the driver.
Bob Wilson
I don't look at the Japanese standards any more, but the 2008 EPA standards seem to match the UK and Germany numbers better. Especially for hybrids and diesels. And I agree it's all about using the same scale in comparing vehicles.