Accessary Power Outlet Usage
#1
Accessary Power Outlet Usage
Hi All,
I've used the accessary power outlet in other cars I've driven to inflate
tires on yard equipment, etc. Is this OK to do with the HCH-II? Should the engine be running?
Thanks in advance.
Galileo
I've used the accessary power outlet in other cars I've driven to inflate
tires on yard equipment, etc. Is this OK to do with the HCH-II? Should the engine be running?
Thanks in advance.
Galileo
#3
Re: Accessary Power Outlet Usage
The outlet doesn't draw down the hybrid battery if that's what your worried about. It draws from the standard car battery - the same one that starts the car when you turn the key. I think the same rules apply as with any car as far as plug-in accessories go.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but the hybrid battery only powers the assist motor and if needed the smaller of the two AC compressors. Everything else comes from the normal car battery.
-dan
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but the hybrid battery only powers the assist motor and if needed the smaller of the two AC compressors. Everything else comes from the normal car battery.
-dan
#4
Re: Accessary Power Outlet Usage
The outlet doesn't draw down the hybrid battery if that's what your worried about. It draws from the standard car battery - the same one that starts the car when you turn the key. I think the same rules apply as with any car as far as plug-in accessories go.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but the hybrid battery only powers the assist motor and if needed the smaller of the two AC compressors. Everything else comes from the normal car battery.
-dan
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but the hybrid battery only powers the assist motor and if needed the smaller of the two AC compressors. Everything else comes from the normal car battery.
-dan
#5
Re: Accessary Power Outlet Usage
That's only partly true. When you turn the key, you hear the conventional starter. That too is a normal condition along with starting the engine after an auto-stop. Each uses a different battery.
#7
Re: Accessary Power Outlet Usage
No... in the year and change since I got my HCH2, the conventional starter has triggered only once... on a 5F morning with the battery pack showing only 2 bars. It is a *VERY* different sound than the usual IMA starter.
#8
Re: Accessary Power Outlet Usage
I stand corrected. The starter motor is there but rarely, if ever, used. I guess I just imagined I was hearing it. I thought I had read it was used on initial starts only.
#9
Re: Accessary Power Outlet Usage
That is a good question.
There have been those of us who depleted the 12V battery with little effort by just using a tire pump. It does not take much to get to that state particularly if we already run a lot of gadgets inside the car. The tell-tale sign of a freshly depleted battery is the frequent rebooting of the car's dash (blinking at 1Hz) as we are inflating the last tire. At that point we cannot start the car at all unless we recharge the 12V battery with an external charger.
I would say that for the occasional short use, it would be OK. However, that 12V battery is simply unable to power certains high power appliances for extended periods of time unless the gas engine is running. I would sugest we look at the charge eye in the battery before doing any extended use of the accessories power. If it is Blue then go right ahead. If it is clear then back off and don't use it unless you plan on having the gas engine running while you do it.
Also, the lower 12V charge will impact the fuel economy anyway because the charge actually comes from the IMA. Just plug a scangauge and observe how long and frequently the IMA is charging the 12V system to get an idea of impact.
Cheers;
MSantos
#10
Re: Accessary Power Outlet Usage
There is no power too these outlets unless the ignition is on, correct? I think they should only be used when the engine is running. It is a very small battery. I'm not sure what the amp. hrs. are.