10% Ethanol in NJ Gas?!?!
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Re: 10% Ethanol in NJ Gas?!?!
[QUOTE=gchu...What have been everyone's experience?...[/QUOTE]
I'm a little surprised it isn't any cheaper for you, since here in corn country it has been 10 cents a gallon cheaper than regular for quite some time now, probably since prices topped about $2.00 per gallon. Of course, we have the ethanol refineries right nearby, since this is where the corn source is, so the transportation costs are low here. When gas was about $1.50 per gallon the differential was about 5 cents, as I remember.
All of the E10 around here is rated at 89 octane rather than 87. I assume that would be standard.
I've been using E10 for so long now I don't even notice anymore. But this tank I filled up with regular to see how much difference it would make. So far on my daily commutes I can't notice the difference, but only have a few trips on this tank. I'll run a few tanks on regular and compare the results to my E10 results.
I'm a little surprised it isn't any cheaper for you, since here in corn country it has been 10 cents a gallon cheaper than regular for quite some time now, probably since prices topped about $2.00 per gallon. Of course, we have the ethanol refineries right nearby, since this is where the corn source is, so the transportation costs are low here. When gas was about $1.50 per gallon the differential was about 5 cents, as I remember.
All of the E10 around here is rated at 89 octane rather than 87. I assume that would be standard.
I've been using E10 for so long now I don't even notice anymore. But this tank I filled up with regular to see how much difference it would make. So far on my daily commutes I can't notice the difference, but only have a few trips on this tank. I'll run a few tanks on regular and compare the results to my E10 results.
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Re: 10% Ethanol in NJ Gas?!?!
I noticed the sticker at my local Shell Canada station telling me that the 87 octane fuel has 10% ethanol. IIRC, 89 octane gets 5%, and the premium gets none.
This was in Toronto. It may be true of Ontario, and it may be true of all of Canada. I just couldn't find mention of it on their web site. They abide by the Top Tier program, of course, but I don't see how it requires ethanol.
This was in Toronto. It may be true of Ontario, and it may be true of all of Canada. I just couldn't find mention of it on their web site. They abide by the Top Tier program, of course, but I don't see how it requires ethanol.
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Re: 10% Ethanol in NJ Gas?!?!
spinner — I contacted Shell in Calgary, Alberta, and what they're doing is the following:
- They put 10% ethanol into their 'Bronze' 87-octane gasoline only in major cities in Canada. Their 'V-Power' 91-octane gasoline has no ethanol. Their 'Silver' 89-octane gasoline is a 50-50 mixture of the 87- and 91-octane grades, and so has 5% ethanol. This meets the Canadian government's current requirement for gasolines to average 5% ethanol.
- In other areas, such as in my Kitchener-Waterloo area, there's no ethanol in any of their grades. The pumps consequently do not have any ethanol advice stickers on them.
- Other refiners may also be doing similar things. This may also hold true in the U.S.A.
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Re: 10% Ethanol in NJ Gas?!?!
spinner — I contacted Shell in Calgary, Alberta, and what they're doing is the following:
- They put 10% ethanol into their 'Bronze' 87-octane gasoline only in major cities in Canada. Their 'V-Power' 91-octane gasoline has no ethanol. Their 'Silver' 89-octane gasoline is a 50-50 mixture of the 87- and 91-octane grades, and so has 5% ethanol. This meets the Canadian government's current requirement for gasolines to average 5% ethanol.
- In other areas, such as in my Kitchener-Waterloo area, there's no ethanol in any of their grades. The pumps consequently do not have any ethanol advice stickers on them.
- Other refiners may also be doing similar things. This may also hold true in the U.S.A.
On our next Canadian vacation, I'll be sure to fill-up only midway between cities.
Bob Wilson
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