Congratulations Hypermiler’s!
 

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(The roar of applause.)
Sob Sob Sob
Weep, smile.
Wipes tears away.

Billy Crystal hands Kenny the FKOPEC Award B)
"I'd like to thank the members of the Academy.
(Sob sob)
I'd like to thank my mother who said, "I have enough money to last the rest of my life, unless I buy something."

Oh and I couldn't have done it without the love and support of my IMA.

Thank You!
You like me, You really like me! :D
I Love You All!"

Sob Sob Sob, (more applause) as I am escorted away by Madonna and Britney Spears.

I've pinned this topic. Now, ya'll can feel real special :)

I didn't quite understand... what are the honorable mentions, now?

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Pinned?

Does that mean the moderator did something to keep the thread always visible, on top?

overridden their tank data.


what does this mean???

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Hey,

I finally broke two milestones I set for myself:
- 55 mpg average for one tank
- 700 mile tank

Had a little help. First, my wife didn't need the car to go to school (she usually gets in the 40s in mpg). Next, some "easy" driving while camping on July 4th weekend. Plus temps in the 80s up to 100s for my drive home during my commutes. I did drive with AC off -- well, it's a dry heat! :P

By the way, dash read 57.5 mpg, but I calculated 56.4 mpg at the pump.

Now I'm going for the 60 mpg mark! :)

(well, with the way things are going, maybe next year.)

jinno

jinno
That is simply fantastic. You're beating EPA by about 10MPG.
My wife was also wrecking my tank averages.

Her car is the Grand Caravan and I find that if I keep the GC gassed up and parked in a VERY convenient place for her to access, and park my HCH the carport in the very back of the property....out of the way....the HCH is left alone.


Ta da.. :P my averages are also up again!

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Holy crap guys. I envy you to no extent, that is simply amazing. 90+ MPG!!!! :o Thats insane even for those mods you have. You must really have that hybrid driving style down to a t.

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I bought a used 2004 5-speed HCH earlier this month, had 4823 miles when I got it.

The previous owner had kept the "Trip B" odometer as the total miles on the car - the total miles and the Trip B odometer miles read the same number of miles.

Total MPG for the Trip B odometer reads 34.8 MPG. So to me, that logically says that the car has achieved only 34.8 MPG over the first 5700 miles.

Is that what I can assume? If so, that's pretty paltry overall mileage for a Hybrid, wouldn't you all agree?

Does anyone else have a trip meter that has been maintained equal to the mileage on the car, and does yours show something similarly low?

Thanks !!!

If you drive it with your foot on the floor and a/c on all the time and in the city I think you might just get that type of milage. Mine shows 55.3 for lifetime on trip "B".

I have about 4500 miles on my 04 HCH CVT.
I have data on 7 tanks of gas (I think I lost the data for one tank)
The average of these 7 tanks is 57.0 MPG.

I think there is nothing wrong with your car.
It all depends on how you drive.
Most people drive in a very non fuel-efficient way.

It amazes me that you guys can get those astronomical MPG rates....

I have driven SO VERY CAREFULLY to get my 40 mpg on my first two and a half tanks. I coast in gear whenever possible, I use ECON, I have inflated tires to 38 PSI, I have installed low-friction Synthetic oil, I never even come CLOSE to aggressive acceleration, I watch the charging and assist lights constantly. I personally drive in a VERY fuel-efficient manner, and am learning new tricks and habits almost every day.

One of my problems is that my commute is a city stop-and-go drive every morning and afternoon. :angry: My drive is this:

Take kids to school, about 5 total miles, go through 8 stop lights, then drive about 4 more miles to work, hitting 7 more lights on that part of the trip. Speed limits vary from 30-45 MPH along the way. I get to fifth gear as soon as I can, and I coast into stop lights while braking (for regenerative charging purposes) and I use the cruise control when I can (because I noticed it does a better job than my foot in keeping the green charging lights on.) Mostly completely flat roads, just a couple of slight inclines. I use the A/C in the afternoon part of the drive, not ususally in the morning. I'm in Phoenix, and it has been averaging about 104 degrees per day since I got the car on July 11th.

Can you describe for me your commute? It must be a lot of highway miles on a flat road - there is no way you can get 57 MPG in city driving. If you can, then there MUST be something wrong with my HCH. Even on a particularly long (30 miles) highway jaunt at 65 mph, the computer never showed higher than 47.1 MPG.

Thanks !!

You are driving short trips in Arizona heat with the air conditioner on and other people in the car.

I'm in Los Angeles near the beach, driving alone and I weigh 185 lbs, no air conditioner, drive mostly on the freeway at 53 MPH on cruise control, no big hills, I accelerate like a snail.
I am an extreeeeeeem hyper-miler

I think your car is okay.

Do a test in the evening when you don't need the air conditioner.
Get on the freeway for 15 minutes to warm up the car.
Drive at 53 MPH on a flat stretch on cruise control.
Zero your Trip A meter.
Drive for 10 minutes, with your windows closed.
What do you get?
I'll bet it is in the 60s.

Well, I think I *will* do that test, but only sometime after October 1st. Unlike SoCal, it does not get cool in the evenings here until after the summer heating is over. During the summer, we sometimes have over 100 degrees AFTER 10 P.M. :( In fact, we set a record last July for the LOW TEMP never going below 96 degrees one night.

Thanks for the input, and good luck on your Hyper-Mileage !!

Kenny is right! You drive short trips and a/c, I drive about 60 miles one way to work. I take 2 different routes, one almost all freeway and the other backroads with a few stops in a few towns. I haven't had to use the a/c that much until this tank I'm on now and this tank has had almost all city driving and the gauge shows 50.7 at this point, so it could be around 48 mpg in reality. I do start work this evening so I'll be able to put some hwy miles on this tank and I hope it goes up a bit. That and a cool front has come...in Aug. ..lol well it's 90F now instead of 98F so I might not have to use the a/c. Kevin

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Thanks guys.

I have a spreadsheet with almost all my fill ups since I bought it 14 months ago.

I have 31 tanks recorded and I've been under the 45 mpg mark only 4 times:

1st tank, and the 3 others were in the heart of winter (january/february) at temperature below or at -40C/F. :blink: :ph34r:

Wayne,
What do i have to hit for the 'rolla? Winter is fast aproaching! Warm air will go on w/in the month, i'll wait for 50 degrees before i put on a radiator block....hopefully i wont take as big a hit as last year.
Cheers,
Steven

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Wayne,
Its a 2000, but same engine, chasis, ect. just different front bumper....so it should be the same. I dont think i'll hit the list this year...oh-well, theres always next year.
Cheers,
Steven

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I don't put on a lot of miles very quickly--only 25 miles or so a day. So I'll get back to you in about three weeks. :)

Andy

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Not likely. Winter is coming and here in Canada, it will be pretty bad. This morning is a taste of things to come. First it's cold at 16C and it's raining heavily. The whole traffic pattern changes and that throws off all timing on the lights. Then there is this one section with a long slope down followed immediately by a 90 degree right turn ramp with a steep climb. I normally glide through the thing with zero gas input. Trouble is there is a school right at that corner and since the school year has started, there are cops controlling the traffic at the school entrance. So cars are backed up all the way down the amp. I had to stop at the very bottom of the section and lost all the kinetic energy that I normal trade for potential energy up the ramp. And then I had to inch up the ramp with bursts from the ICE because it's too steep for the electric motor to take alone. I had a 40mpg bar for the 5 minute with that section. I haven't seen one of those on a warmed up car for a very long time now. One more day of this and I'll have to find a new route to bypass the school.

I started the the day with 3.5L/100k at 52km on my current tank. I ended the morning commute at 3.8L/100k at 72km. That works out to roughly 50mpg for the morning alone. If rain is doing this, just imagine with snow will do in a few months...

Anyway, I think in the Prius II section, the one to watch is priustideland's new car. Steve took it to 59mpg on the first tank and he is more than capable of maintaining that. And there is another car on 63mpg first tank. Being able to do 60+mpg with 15min trip duration is just mind blowing, first tank or not. As for Dan Kroushl, he is driving extremely well these days but his has a lot of historical bagage. It would be very hard for him to do significantly better than where he's at right now, in the near future at least.

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Again not likely. You should see the wince on my wife's face every time I slow down to wait out a red light. She would not be able to understand what a thousand mile tank means. There are a few things in life more important than high mileage, unfortunately :)

Andy

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Yes, I would be really interested in instructions for a Prius II hot air mod. Could you dig it up if you don't mind? It's in English I hope. There has been a Japanese document floating around. I tried translating it through world.altavist.com but it was really awkward. And it's for Prius I.

In any case, I think my main problem yesterday was the change in traffic pattern with the start of the school year. The rain just makes everything worst. It is not raining this morning but still traffic jam everywhere. Mileage is better than yesterday but still significantly worst than the weeks before. I think I'll have to find a new route for the second half of the morning trip. Too bad it's been so finely tuned for the last month or so. The route for the trip back home seems fine though.

Andy

'Scuse my ignorance, but what would a warm air mod do for a Prius? Is it to battle the loss of MPG brought on by cold weather?

I thought the cold weather loss of mpg problem is related to how the batteries react to cold weather? If so, how can a warm air mod help THAT problem?

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Well, I guess I am a hypermiler. The EPA numbers for 97 Saturn station wagons vary depending on which engine you have. So the combined should be either 28mpg for the smaller engine or 30 mpg for the larger.

I have no clue which I have so I shot for five tanks over 30mpg and just got it.

Let me know if I have the wrong basis for declaring myself a hypermiler!

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Personally I long for fall/winter, granted Atlanta weather isn't too harsh.
It usually hovers just below freezing at night then with 40's-50's in the day.

In my opinion:
#1 Enemy of hyper milage is other drivers using the car. (Bless her heart she tries)
#2 Is AC.
#3 Is Passengers (Weight)
#4 Stormy weather (Headwind, rain etc)
#5 Cold weather

Notice cold weather is last on the list.

I know you in the North have more issues with cold engines etc.
God knows I remember my youth in Minneapolis.....3AM mornings @ 30 below and a frozen solid block mustache....Tires so cold that it takes 100' just to round the flat spots on the tires...Oh the humanity!

Any thoughts?

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