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GaryG Jul 27, 2013 10:02 AM

C-Max Energy
 
I have now documented a 33.3 mile range with photos http://fordcmaxenergiforum.com/galle.../273-photo-24/ on my C-Max Energi. The EPA gives the Energi a 21 mile range. I used 5.7KW's during the triphttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/icon1.png, and now have a 219 Lifetime MPG with 1,660 mileshttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/icon1.png. I've ran the A/C 100% of the time at 70 -71F degrees, but sometimes I precondition the cabin while charging. This allows coolinghttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/icon1.png the battery and cabin before a trip.

Love this carhttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/icon1.png!

Gary

Billyk24 Jul 27, 2013 03:57 PM

Re: C-Max Energy
 
Keep talking with your dealer and letting the higher ups know about your data as Ford can use some real world PR. :)

econoline Jul 27, 2013 04:56 PM

Re: C-Max Energy
 
If the C-Max had the utility of an FEH I'd certainly want one. But I need the AWD and cargo space of the FEH.

Keep us updated on the C-Max.

GaryG Jul 28, 2013 01:39 PM

Re: C-Max Energy
 

Originally Posted by econoline (Post 249130)
If the C-Max had the utility of an FEH I'd certainly want one. But I need the AWD and cargo space of the FEH.

Keep us updated on the C-Max.

I was waiting for the plug-in FEH when suddenly Ford dropped the program. At any rate, my '11 Explorer can handle towing and cargo and I have no need for AWD here in South Florida.

With the backseats down, the Energi still has a lot of cargo space. The high roof allows me to carry a 150qt Igloo cooler or other big items through the large back doors. I can open the lid completely to my cooler better than in my FEH and Explorer because of the high roof clearance. The backseat headrest fold down, and you don't need to remove them like in the FEH.

Billy, I hypermile for myself, not Ford. Ford doesn't owe me anything but good service and a fair price. Even Wayne Gerdes tells it like it is about Ford's hybrids. Wayne even cautioned me about getting a C-Max, but I think he was wrong about the C-Max Energi, and I'm glad I purchased it anyway.

Gary

wptski Jul 29, 2013 04:42 PM

Re: C-Max Energy
 
The C-Max Energy not involved in this recall? http://www.thecarconnection.com/news...f-safety-issue

GaryG Jul 29, 2013 05:08 PM

Re: C-Max Energy
 

Originally Posted by wptski (Post 249151)
The C-Max Energy not involved in this recall? http://www.thecarconnection.com/news...f-safety-issue

I haven't got a notice from Ford or read that the Energi is included, but I think it must be. We'll see, and I will post when I hear something. I have got letters from Ford on the lift gate foot trick and MFT updates, but no rush to the dealer yet on my part.

Gary

GaryG Aug 5, 2013 05:34 PM

Re: C-Max Energy
 
It appears I've stumbled across a charging technique in the C-Max Energi that increases EV distance. What I'm seeing and reading about is thermal balancing of the cells. I was trying to run the A/C while charging with my 110V charger and found I could push the brake pedal and hit the start button and the A/C would start cooling. The car gave a message to unplug the vehicle and would not allow the car to move in EV. This prevents driving off with the car plugged in and damaging the car and the charger. Little did I know that the Energi continued to charge in this mode, but it also switched to cooling the battery with cabin A/C. Now the real thing happen that blew my mine. The engine started spinning with MG1 in fuel-cut with no RPM's on the tach, no change in MPG and very little increase in engine temperature. What was happening was MG1 was regulating the energy going to the battery so the heat of charging was drastically reduced. This allowed the cells in the battery to get a better thermal balance. The reward was what I coined as a supercharge. The battery drained much slower in EV and the range increased.

I just posted another photo of my commute with the A/C on 70F going 33.9 miles in EV: http://fordcmaxenergiforum.com/galle...277-339-miles/

I now have 3/4 of a tank with 1,750 miles on the dealer fill-up and that gives me a 234mpg lifetime so far. Billy, I may have under estimated that I could get a 5,000 mile tank.

Gary

Billyk24 Aug 5, 2013 05:47 PM

Re: C-Max Energy
 
The world's highest MPG vehicle that is driven as a daily driver. Way to go.:)

GaryG Aug 8, 2013 05:10 PM

Re: C-Max Energy
 

Originally Posted by wptski (Post 249151)
The C-Max Energy not involved in this recall? http://www.thecarconnection.com/news...f-safety-issue

Got my recall notice today.

Gary

wptski Aug 9, 2013 07:33 PM

Re: C-Max Energy
 

Originally Posted by GaryG (Post 249300)
Got my recall notice today.

Gary

You did say that it probably would include your vehicle.


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