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Re: Toyota alert *mat issues*
Originally Posted by roseng
(Post 211592)
This is a copy and paste from an internal email @ Toyota FIY
This message is intended for all TFS associates. The following message was sent to all TMS associates today. Please take a moment to read this important information. Because Toyota takes public safety very seriously, the company is issuing a Consumer Safety Advisory about the potential for an accelerator pedal to get stuck in the full open position due to an unsecured or incompatible driver’s floor mat. A stuck open accelerator pedal may result in very high vehicle speeds and make it difficult to stop the vehicle, which could result in a crash, serious injury or death. Recent events have prompted Toyota to take a closer look at this issue. We consider this a critical matter and will soon launch a safety campaign on specific Toyota and Lexus vehicles. Throughout the process of developing the details of the action plan, we will advise the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA). Until Toyota can implement a remedy, it is asking consumers and associates who drive specific Toyota and Lexus models to take out any removable driver’s floor mat and NOT replace it with any other floor mat. The following models are affected:
It is really hard for me to believe that Toyota could get that TSB, caution warning, so very, VERY wrong. The problem is that the floor mat creeps forward and gets "trapped" over the top of the gas pedal BUT BEHIND THE BRAKE PEDAL. Now when you step on the brake you sometimes get an inadvertent episode of unintended acceleration. |
Re: Toyota to Recall 3.8 Million Vehicles
Originally Posted by alphabetbackward
(Post 211599)
If what Ancistrus says is true, then the older ones didn't have these the holes for the clips.
Personally, I never went in to get the new all weather mats as I've never had a problem and apparently am smart enough to know that you should stack the mats. I don't even know why someone would. How did we ever survive all these years without floor mat hooks?? |
Re: Toyota to Recall 3.8 Million Vehicles
So what are they doing exactly? I read the release from Toyota, but it's a lot of mumbo jumbo, so can anyone translate into plain English? Are they replacing the standard carpet mats? Are they adding something to keep them more secure? (I don't even use my original mats, but if they're going to do something fun and exciting for free...)
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Re: Toyota alert *mat issues*
I don't think Toyota got it wrong, at all. I think some dealers have been delivering cars with the wrong floor mats.
Here's a snip from one of todays news articles: NHTSA investigators determined that a rubber all-weather floor mat found in the wreckage was slightly longer than the mat that belonged in the vehicle, something that could have snared or covered the accelerator pedal. |
Re: Toyota to Recall 3.8 Million Vehicles
Originally Posted by mikieboyblue
(Post 211616)
My all weather mats purchase from the dealer in March 2007 had the clip holes. The original TSB was indeed for the all weather mats. They shortened the rubber near the gas pedal. The also said you should never stack the mats.
I just use the carpet mats on my '09. |
Re: Toyota to Recall 3.8 Million Vehicles
Not sure if the link to the notice has been posted:
http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/t...ry-102572.aspx |
Re: Toyota to Recall 3.8 Million Vehicles
Heard a chilling 911 call on CNBC (I'll try and add the link if they post the video) this morning.
People ended up crashing as the car was racing due to a stuck accelerator pedal. Wonder why they didn't try to shift the car to neutral or to turn off the power? Lesson to be learned...if you're in a car accelerating out of control...shift to neutral. (that's possible when the car is accelerating, isn't it?) |
Re: Toyota to Recall 3.8 Million Vehicles
Originally Posted by JoeRemix
(Post 211620)
So what are they doing exactly?
NHTSA investigators determined that a rubber all-weather floor mat found in the wreckage was slightly longer than the mat that belonged in the vehicle, something that could have snared or covered the accelerator pedal. As a precaution, it is wise to check which mats are actually installed in each vehicle, and that are installed correctly. So they are going to look at the mat to make sure it is the right one for the car. They will probably also look to see that there is only one, and that it is hooked properly. https://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/...vbseo/digg.gifhttps://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/.../delicious.gifhttps://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/...technorati.gifhttps://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/...vbseo/furl.gifhttp://a248.e.akamai.net/7/248/1229/...e_logos/gg.png https://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/...c/progress.gif https://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/...ttons/edit.gif |
Re: Toyota to Recall 3.8 Million Vehicles
Originally Posted by haroldo
(Post 211634)
Heard a chilling 911 call on CNBC (I'll try and add the link if they post the video) this morning.
People ended up crashing as the car was racing due to a stuck accelerator pedal. Wonder why they didn't try to shift the car to neutral or to turn off the power? Lesson to be learned...if you're in a car accelerating out of control...shift to neutral. (that's possible when the car is accelerating, isn't it?) I wonder why this person did not try to push hard on the BRAKES. I have pressed the start button to kill my engine while in Drive. I was going very slow near my mailbox. I'm not sure if that would work at faster speeds but in a panic it's sure worth a try. |
Re: Toyota to Recall 3.8 Million Vehicles
On the audio tape, they 911 operator confirmed with the passenger that the brakes had no effect.
"....I'm almost sure by putting the car in neutral would also put the engine instantly to idle.." No, neutral doens't do anything (or didn't) I had 'real' (as opposed to driver error or floor mat) uninted acceleration in my 1981 280 ZX. I used the clutch and shifted to neutral and the car was redlining. I coasted to a stop and hooked my foot under the accelerator and pulled it back up. I had my mechanic spray 'gum out' or something like that on 'some spring' (linkage??) and it never occured again. |
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