MPG comparison - 16" alloy vs steel wheels
When I bought my 07 TCH back in Aug 06, the 16" alloy wheels were standard. I was getting about 35mpg on those wheels with the stock Michelin tires. I drove on those tires for 5k miles, so I got a very good average on my fuel efficiency. Then as many of you know, I upgraded to 18" Lexus GS wheels with BFG tires, as well as lowered my car. My FE stayed about the same, it was usually around 34.5 - 35 with that setup. I paid for those Lexus wheels by selling my 16" stock wheels, but I kept the Michelin tires in the garage. Well, 40k miles later, those 18" tires are bald, so rather than buy new 18" tires, I found a great deal to buy four Camry 16" steel OEM wheels for just $80. So I mounted my original Michelin tires on these steel wheels, and lo-and-behold I've been averaging 37mpg so far over three full tanks of gas. My commute has not changed, nor have my driving habits, I have not been trying to maximize FE anymore than i usually do.
This makes absolutely no sense to me. Why would lighter alloy wheels have worse fuel efficiency than heavier steel wheels? The only thing I didn't do is I didn't transfer the TPMS sensors into the steel wheels, but I can't believe that the TPMS would weight that much to cause a 2-3mpg impact. Has anybody else out there traded between the OEM 16" alloy wheels and the OEM 16" steel wheels (and hopefully used the same tires on both) and noticed the same thing as I have? With today's gas prices, I'm going to completely use up these 16" Michelins before I buy my next set of 18" since they are getting me an improved FE. |
Re: MPG comparison - 16" alloy vs steel wheels
Originally Posted by flopshot
(Post 180818)
When I bought my 07 TCH back in Aug 06, the 16" alloy wheels were standard. I was getting about 35mpg on those wheels with the stock Michelin tires. I drove on those tires for 5k miles, so I got a very good average on my fuel efficiency. Then as many of you know, I upgraded to 18" Lexus GS wheels with BFG tires, as well as lowered my car. My FE stayed about the same, it was usually around 34.5 - 35 with that setup. I paid for those Lexus wheels by selling my 16" stock wheels, but I kept the Michelin tires in the garage. Well, 40k miles later, those 18" tires are bald, so rather than buy new 18" tires, I found a great deal to buy four Camry 16" steel OEM wheels for just $80. So I mounted my original Michelin tires on these steel wheels, and lo-and-behold I've been averaging 37mpg so far over three full tanks of gas. My commute has not changed, nor have my driving habits, I have not been trying to maximize FE anymore than i usually do.
This makes absolutely no sense to me. Why would lighter alloy wheels have worse fuel efficiency than heavier steel wheels? The only thing I didn't do is I didn't transfer the TPMS sensors into the steel wheels, but I can't believe that the TPMS would weight that much to cause a 2-3mpg impact. Has anybody else out there traded between the OEM 16" alloy wheels and the OEM 16" steel wheels (and hopefully used the same tires on both) and noticed the same thing as I have? With today's gas prices, I'm going to completely use up these 16" Michelins before I buy my next set of 18" since they are getting me an improved FE. Also, is there a differene in your gas, summer blend vs winter blend??? edit: Additionally, aren't the alloys part of an optional package now on TCHs? I wonder if the mileage diff between the alloys and steel wheels is even noticable?? Certainly there isn't a different EPA rating which is dependant on which wheels the car has. |
Re: MPG comparison - 16" alloy vs steel wheels
Do you know the weight of the 16" alloy wheels?
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Re: MPG comparison - 16" alloy vs steel wheels
Originally Posted by jbollt
(Post 180819)
Very strange indeed. Perhaps the TCH wasn't yet broken in when you switched to the 18s, and now, with over 40K miles, it is broken in, yielding better fuel mileage? The true test would be to get some TCH alloys and your 16 inch Michelins, but that would be a pricey test....
Also, is there a differene in your gas, summer blend vs winter blend??? edit: Additionally, aren't the alloys part of an optional package now on TCHs? I wonder if the mileage diff between the alloys and steel wheels is even noticable?? Certainly there isn't a different EPA rating which is dependant on which wheels the car has.
Originally Posted by UWAdventurer
(Post 180822)
Do you know the weight of the 16" alloy wheels?
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Re: MPG comparison - 16" alloy vs steel wheels
1) The michelin tires probably have a lower rolling resistance factor than the BFG.
2) The circumference of the 18 inch tires is greater than the circumference of the 16 inch tires. Without recalibrating your odometer, you were going a further distance per tire revolution with the 18 inch tires than the 16 inch tires. Perhaps the added distance negated the increased weight of the wheels; or at best, is not too discernable a difference. |
Re: MPG comparison - 16" alloy vs steel wheels
I'm sure the answer is your Michelins are a Low Rolling Resistance tire, and the BFG's are not.
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Re: MPG comparison - 16" alloy vs steel wheels
Flopshot,
Would you mind posting pictures of the new setup? I am wondering what 16in wheels look like with your lowered TCH. I am considering going with aftermarket wheels because I find the stock rims to be a bit bland, but don't want to give up my brand new tires (i.e 16inch) at the same time. Thanks. Ron |
Re: MPG comparison - 16" alloy vs steel wheels
Originally Posted by nyceshirtz
(Post 180867)
1) The michelin tires probably have a lower rolling resistance factor than the BFG.
2) The circumference of the 18 inch tires is greater than the circumference of the 16 inch tires. Without recalibrating your odometer, you were going a further distance per tire revolution with the 18 inch tires than the 16 inch tires. Perhaps the added distance negated the increased weight of the wheels; or at best, is not too discernable a difference.
Originally Posted by wes878
(Post 180868)
I'm sure the answer is your Michelins are a Low Rolling Resistance tire, and the BFG's are not.
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Re: MPG comparison - 16" alloy vs steel wheels
Look at other factors - the environment - the weather has gotten warmer so there is a shorter time to get the ICE up to operating temperature which in turn uses less gas at cold startups.
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Re: MPG comparison - 16" alloy vs steel wheels
Originally Posted by nyceshirtz
(Post 180983)
Look at other factors - the environment - the weather has gotten warmer so there is a shorter time to get the ICE up to operating temperature which in turn uses less gas at cold startups.
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