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ken1784 11-05-2008 07:02 PM

Re: How will be the MPG on the new Insight?
 

Originally Posted by Harold (Post 190557)
Look at the wheel base ,width and so on, they are basically the same size.H

The outer size means nothing.
Prius 96 cu.ft Passenger Volume is larger than Civic 91 cu.ft, period.

The EPA's category is based on the total utility space.
The Civic CNG is 91 cu.ft + 6 cu.ft because of a large CNG tank, then it goes to subcompact category, less than 100 cu.ft total.

Ken@Japan

Harold 11-05-2008 07:17 PM

Re: How will be the MPG on the new Insight?
 
It makes the subcompact category because of the longer hatch-back roof-line. H

ken1784 11-05-2008 09:10 PM

Re: How will be the MPG on the new Insight?
 

Originally Posted by Harold (Post 190588)
It makes the subcompact category because of the longer hatch-back roof-line. H

I'm referring to Civic CNG subcompact 4 door version as same as the HCH2 body size.
http://automobiles.honda.com/civic-g...oup=dimensions

Would you please show us any pointers for the hatch-back version of the Civic CNG?

Thanks in advance,
Ken@Japan

Harold 11-06-2008 09:13 AM

Re: How will be the MPG on the new Insight?
 
It is interesting how they determine things, but I think most people compare these two cars when purchasing. The hatch and fold down seats have been the big selling feature for Prius, and a few other things.H

ken1784 11-06-2008 10:12 AM

Re: How will be the MPG on the new Insight?
 
I see you're talking with just your feelings than the EPA's official size categories.

Again, would you please show us any pointers for the hatch-back version of the Civic CNG?

Thanks in advance,
Ken@Japan

nimbus2k 12-22-2008 02:01 PM

Re: How will be the MPG on the new Insight?
 

Originally Posted by Harold (Post 190557)
Yes the prius has seats that go down and 11 more cubic, but its not safe to use all those cubic inch. Put the brakes on hard and you will see where all that cargo ends up!!! It is only natural a hatch will have more volume for packing stuff over a sedan. Look at the wheel base ,width and so on, they are basically the same size.H

Umm have you never used a station wagon?

Having owned 3 Honda hybrids and 1 Toyota I have no particular brand preference, but I have to say that after looking at the Honda Prius, you'll probably get 3-4 small bags of groceries back there plus your 15" laptop.

Without being able to put the seats down and load it up, I don't think it's even going to be good for a run to the recycling center (but then... if you hit the brakes, you've got newspapers all over the inside of the car anyway...)

Except that to do so would be pretty much an Exact copy of the Toyota Prius, I don't see why they didn't go for making the car more useful for day-to-day family use, rather just high MPG trips to the office/the mall.

This still leaves us shopping for another "crossover" to drive to grandmas for the weekend, go to Home Depot to get an 8' board, or take all the recycling to the center.

The Honda Prius is not nearly as "Practical" a car as the Toyota version.

ken1784 12-28-2008 07:30 PM

Re: How will be the MPG on the new Insight?
 
The specification of the new Insight was leaked at following site.
http://japanesegreencars.blogspot.co...a-insight.html

Insight vs Civic Hybrid
engine power:88HP vs 94HP
motor power:14HP vs 20HP (The HV battery on the Insight is also scaled down)
motor torque:9.4kgm vs 10.5kgm
Japanese 10-15 mode mileage:30.0km/L vs 31.0km/L (Prius:35.5km/L)

Ken@Japan

kosutasu 12-30-2008 02:40 AM

Re: How will be the MPG on the new Insight?
 
Figures are according to EU legislation

city : 4.6 l/100km (51 MPG)

Highway : 4.2 l/100km (56 MPG)

Combined : 4.4 l/100km (53.5 MPG)

CO2 Emission : 101 g/km

http://japanesegreencars.blogspot.co...formation.html


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