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pda4you Aug 10, 2009 06:51 AM

Nissan Leaf....interesting
 
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I just got this email from Nissan - looks very interesting. 100mi range and great styling...

http://www.nissanusa.com/leaf-electr...evrevealem.HNR

ppgroup Nov 23, 2009 06:20 AM

Re: Nissan Leaf....interesting
 
Yes but...

According to available, the batteries will only last 3 years and will cost around $9000 to replace.

bluelagoon Dec 2, 2009 11:49 AM

Re: Nissan Leaf....interesting
 
The Nissan Leaf looks interesting but like with any electric vehicle you'll still have to put up with a relatively short range and long recharging time.

EVDRVR2 Dec 2, 2009 06:17 PM

Re: Nissan Leaf....interesting
 
Have driven the Versa "test mule" and was very impressed with the performance. Seat of the pants says it is more than adequate and out performs the Rav4EV. Tesla and Ebox owners need not fear. The 100 mile range of the Rav4EV has proven more than adequate for most owners.

In person the Leaf looks like a very nice small car. About the same size as the Versa.

If you are looking for a production EV I believe Nissan has a potential winner. BTW I don't believe they have made up their "minds" in regards to ownership of the batteries. Leasing them to you with a guaranteed level of performance so you don't have to worry about battery longevity seems to be the direction they are leaning.

Personal experience with a EV is that it is amazing how much driving you can do in a car without a lot of range.

Based upon the interest Nissan has had in the car initial production will be sold quickly.

M

giantquesadilla Feb 26, 2010 07:57 PM

Re: Nissan Leaf....interesting
 
Nowhere does it say the batteries will last only three years. By law, the batteries will have to last ten years in California and they are not making a special Leaf for California so all of the Leaf battery packs should last at least 10 years or have a 10 year warranty.


Originally Posted by ppgroup (Post 214370)
Yes but...

According to available, the batteries will only last 3 years and will cost around $9000 to replace.


GreenBoy Mar 15, 2010 04:13 PM

Re: Nissan Leaf....interesting
 

Originally Posted by giantquesadilla (Post 219407)
Nowhere does it say the batteries will last only three years. By law, the batteries will have to last ten years in California and they are not making a special Leaf for California so all of the Leaf battery packs should last at least 10 years or have a 10 year warranty.

If this is the case, I'm definitely interested in learning more. Looks great!

butikmoii Mar 19, 2010 05:06 AM

Re: Nissan Leaf....interesting
 
Wow! Zero Emission. I love the design. Is it electric cars too expensive than fuel automobiles?

Micheal73 Aug 9, 2010 02:54 AM

Re: Nissan Leaf....interesting
 
The Nissan Leaf battery pack - It consists of positive electrodes of manganese instead of cobalt or nickel, making the cost of the battery cheaper. Additionally, to save on the consumer side, Nissan believes that the right thing to do environmentally is to lease the battery pack to the EV owner. This saves the buyer about $7,000 off the sticker price, and transfers the responsibility of the battery (the performance and recycling of used batteries) to Nissan.

Hot_Georgia_2004 Nov 22, 2010 07:42 PM

Re: Nissan Leaf....interesting
 

Originally Posted by Micheal73 (Post 225852)
Nissan believes that the right thing to do environmentally is to lease the battery pack to the EV owner. This saves the buyer about $7,000 off the sticker price, and transfers the responsibility of the battery (the performance and recycling of used batteries) to Nissan.

Sounds great. Except I keep thinking about GM leasing their EV1's and not allowing outright purchase of the vehicle. We all know what happened to EV1's when GM decided not to renew the leases.

http://fuelzilla.com/wp-content/uplo...v1-crushed.jpg

I wonder how difficult (Or possible) it would be to find a suitable replacement should Nissan decide not to renew battery leases, and come and get theirs out of your car.

Oh, the cynical me! :confused:

LakeSilverado Dec 27, 2010 03:03 PM

Re: Nissan Leaf....interesting
 

Originally Posted by Hot_Georgia_2004 (Post 229867)
Sounds great. Except I keep thinking about GM leasing their EV1's and not allowing outright purchase of the vehicle. We all know what happened to EV1's when GM decided not to renew the leases.

I wonder how difficult (Or possible) it would be to find a suitable replacement should Nissan decide not to renew battery leases, and come and get theirs out of your car.

Oh, the cynical me! :confused:

Previous poster is completely misled. The Leaf batteries are not leased - they are a part of the purchase price of the car. The batteries are warrantied for 8 years/100,000 miles against excessive capacity loss.


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