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• I was happy when my 1st car, a 1972 AMC Gremlin got over 15mpg
• I was happy when my college car, a 1974 Opel Manta sedan got over 20mpg and a whopping 30mpg on the highway once.
• I was happy when my 1974 Civic (and 1972 1200 Datsun) got 50mpg
• I was happy when my 1986 Honda CRX HF got 60mpg on a good run
• I was happy when my 1988 Honda CRX HF got 76mpg once and in general when it got 60mpg on a good run before the tune up that nearly killed it (40 mpg after that. :( )
• I'm happy when my 2000 Insight gets over 80mpg - feel horrible when it goes under 50mpg

Anyone else have a similar pattern? :D

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yikes, i can't remember that far back....my first car was a 53 chev, and we certainly never cared about mileage at that time (the early 60s....am i dating myself?)

in recent memory:

85 honda accord (when they were still small) - seems like it was in the 40s, with a 50 thrown in now and then on a road trip
93 civic - 30-40, again with 50 thrown in on road trips
98 forester - 25-27 on a good day :(
2004 hond crv - 24-25 no matter how hard i tried :cry:
2005 HCH - almost 50 even in the snow, and i hope to keep it much higher if spring ever gets here

these all had a manual transmission, by the way.

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Hi Delta_Flyer:

___I feel a little embarassed :embarass:

From this: https://www.greenhybrid.com/compare/.../signature.png

To this: https://www.greenhybrid.com/compare/.../signature.png

To this: https://www.greenhybrid.com/compare/.../signature.png

___Good Luck

___Wayne R. Gerdes

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xcel,

Keep in mind that I did not list my lifetime mpg, but only quoted trips I hypermiled.

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I think Wayne's admission was that he has failed to improve over time. It *is* a good reason to never own an Insight -- you may not be able to buy a more FE car for quite a while :P

Like DF, I promised myself years ago I would only consider a new car that got significantly better FE than the one being replaced. I have since softened my stance because of my wife, and will at least consider a car if it gets 40 MPG. The Toyota and Honda minis coming to the US in 2007 are tempting me to replace our Subaru ... and are the only competition for me holding out until a PHEV is available.

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Hi EricGo:

___I was excited over the upcoming 07 Honda Fit myself as it could have been the first affordable – first time purchaser – high FE based vehicle the states has seen in quite some time. My hopes were pretty much dashed in short order a few weeks ago when the following details were released.

___You can start the huge thread of interest here as well as see my own negative FE commentary scattered in pieces throughout.

Very Solid Fit Info …

___The FE this thing reportedly will receive per the EPA tests (32 City/37 highway) is pathetic for a 2,200 – 2,300 # B-Class sized Sub-compact w/ just a 1.5 L - 105 HP ICE :cry:

___Good Luck

___Wayne R. Gerdes

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I just remember how thrilled I was at averaging 40 MPG on my last car (a '90 Toyota Corolla 5-speed MT).

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1963 Fiat 500 about 40 mpg (driven in 1978)
1968 VW Bug about 18 mpg (driven in 1982)
1972 Citroen GS about 27 mpg (driven in 1984)
1982 VW Passat about 26 mpg (driven in 1989)
1973 MGB-GT about 25 mpg (driven in early 90's)
1998 Subaru Outback Wagon about 25 mpg (driven 98-02)
2003 MINI Cooper S about 25 mpg (driven 03-05)
2005 Prius II about 47.5 mpg (since Jan 05).

So, started at 40 mpg, rapidly dropped to the mid-20's and stayed there until the Prius!

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the past few weeks at home i've been getting mpgs around 60. it's going to be hard to go back to low 50s on the highway and high 40s in the city when i'm back at school.