Life Span of Hybrid Cars?
With hybrid electric/gasoline cars being so new what do you think the lifespan is of the Escape Hybrid? I have a 2007 and it is running well still with 80k miles.
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Re: Life Span of Hybrid Cars?
Originally Posted by uptownvideo
(Post 248422)
With hybrid electric/gasoline cars being so new what do you think the lifespan is of the Escape Hybrid? I have a 2007 and it is running well still with 80k miles.
The CPU software is programmed to test the battery every so often, and I suspect that the results of the test are used to program the SOC levels. So I believe that while the mileage may go down a bit as the battery ages, the battery itself will last a long time. Of course, it is warranted for 10 year / 150K or 8 yr, 100K at the least. |
Re: Life Span of Hybrid Cars?
Like any vehicle, the lifespan of an FEH just depends on how much money you want to spend to keep it going. The bigger question is how reliable the FEH will be as it ages, and whether it will make economic sense to keep one longterm.
Most vehicles I've owned have suffered from electrical problems as they aged. My '88 S10 Blazer has lost electrical door locks, window motors, power door locks, ignition module, blower motor, but mechanically still runs well at 230k miles. My concern about the FEH or any hybrid is the expensive electrical components that may fail as it ages, like that $4k HCU. Even with only 50k on my FEH all the problems have been electrical components or related, MECS pump, blend door actuator, moving forward while in Reverse. So I don't think the FEH is a vehicle to grow old with, but I'm willing to be proven wrong. |
Re: Life Span of Hybrid Cars?
Originally Posted by econoline
(Post 248426)
My concern about the FEH or any hybrid is the expensive electrical components that may fail as it ages, like that $4k HCU. Even with only 50k on my FEH all the problems have been electrical components or related, MECS pump, blend door actuator, moving forward while in Reverse. So I don't think the FEH is a vehicle to grow old with, but I'm willing to be proven wrong.
It will be interesting to see if people develop DIY rebuilds or aftermarket rebuilds for the FEH batteries. |
Re: Life Span of Hybrid Cars?
I would believe "cancer" (rust) will be an issue on many vehicles causing it to be traded/sold before electrical/mechanical issues are the reason.
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Re: Life Span of Hybrid Cars?
Originally Posted by Billyk24
(Post 248462)
I would believe "cancer" (rust) will be an issue on many vehicles causing it to be traded/sold before electrical/mechanical issues are the reason.
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Re: Life Span of Hybrid Cars?
Originally Posted by stevedebi
(Post 248463)
Except that here in LA they seem to last forever, rust-wise.
Is the 2012 battery pack the same as the 08 (or 05 for that matter)? I got a quote from my local hybrid indy mechanic shop where they said they would replace the complete battery pack from a salvaged junkyard vehicle for ~1200 installed. If my battery fails and I could get a 4 year newer battery with similar mileage then it would seem like a no brainer to do that repair. |
Re: Life Span of Hybrid Cars?
If I am not mistaken, the 2010 and new Sanyo FEH battery had increased energy density. I don't have the exact reference at the moment. I wonder if a new FEH battery would slightly improve the MPG on the 1st generation vehicles?
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Re: Life Span of Hybrid Cars?
Originally Posted by trekwars2000
(Post 248464)
Is the 2012 battery pack the same as the 08 (or 05 for that matter)? I got a quote from my local hybrid indy mechanic shop where they said they would replace the complete battery pack from a salvaged junkyard vehicle for ~1200 installed. If my battery fails and I could get a 4 year newer battery with similar mileage then it would seem like a no brainer to do that repair.
The 09-12 battery pack is different than the earlier ones, it was made by different manufacturer, has different output voltage, etc. You can read up on the Internet how people have rebuilt old Honda Insight and Toyota Prius battery packs. They basically take apart the pack, test each D- shaped cell, and solder in a new one as necessary. I suspect Ford battery rebuilds will go about the same if there is a market to do it. |
Re: Life Span of Hybrid Cars?
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The 09-12 battery pack is different than the earlier ones, it was made by different manufacturer, has different output voltage, etc. Wait a minute. Sanyo supplied the FEH battery pack from 2005-2012. Unless you are referring to the merger of Sanyo with Panasonic. |
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