Re: Brake Failure
 

Aside from dealer issues...

One thing to remember is that brakes fail on non-hybrid cars as well. I've seen no evidence that the FEH system is more prone to failure in any way. Wires can be just as reliable a connection to a system as standard hydraulic system. Hopefully that makes one a little less nervous now that its fixed.

Re: Brake Failure
 

Nothing like a timely example:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080514/...rd_recall_dc_1

It doesn't have to be new or high-tech.... to have a problem.

Re: Brake Failure
 

I got my car back a couple of weeks ago and so far, so good! The breaks seem to be working OK, but I guess I won't know for sure until I have another beeak failure.

Re: Brake Failure
 

I noticed in the article they are doing the recall on the F150 after "11 reports of brake failure". If that is not testament of the fact they take this seriously, I don't know what is.

Thus, it is safe to say, a brake failure is very, very rare in the FEH.

Since I've heard of 3 cases, that may be ALL of the cases!
:D -john

Re: Brake Failure
 

It is reassuring. But I have read of more than 3 cases with brake failure. Now, I assume that there are several things that can lead to brake failure, in my case apparently it was not the brake system that was faulty but rather the power supply. My car runs well so far and driving it, I must say I know why we bought it.... it its quite nice. Now if only it stays that way!

Re: Brake Failure
 

Ford has had our 2009 Escape Hybrid (8k miles) for over 2 weeks now. They have sent in techs and have sent data to their engineers. Still no answer to why the brakes completely went out at 35mph with no warning lights, and when we got the car to a stop, and turned it off then on, the brakes worked again. I am glad they are taking this seriously, but maybe we are not ready to drive a new gen car. I know brakes go out on cars all the time, but usually they can find what is wrong and fix it. If they don't know what's wrong, well, who knows when it will happen again, and what the outcome of complete brake failure will be next time.

Re: Brake Failure
 

dontlikedriving, I hope you filed a safety complaint. If not, please do so at https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/Complaint.cfm

Re: Brake Failure
 

Yes we have filed the complaint. Seems to be a common problem in hybrids and the response of "no code no problem" seems to be very common also. I'm just hoping Ford gives us a fair price for a trade in, it's our 4th Ford in 15 years and I want to keep buying them, but I don't feel I can drive a Hybrid until these issues have been resolved. We've proven our owner loyalty, guess we will see how Fords loyalty is to it's customers.

Re: Brake Failure
 

Hybrids do have a rather unusual aspect in that the hydraulically actuated frictional brakes must be FULLY BLOCKED from functionality during periods of regen ONLY braking. And there seems to be no backup failsafe if that blocking doesn't release when/as it should.

Re: Brake Failure
 

If regen braking is taking place and it detects that you are pressing harder on the brake pedal, meaning regen isn't enough, it applys the brake pads. It all in the brake pedal, it detects speed, presure, etc., it's not your standard suspended pedal.