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vader83 09-24-2010 03:58 PM

2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 
I had the 12 volt battery replaced by the dealer the other day and now my drivers door wont unlock with the fob or the electric locks inside. It will lock though. I am tyring to find out if anyone has seen this before so i can complain to the dealership about being charged for it. I can not prove the issue wasnt there before they replaced the battery.

GaryG 09-24-2010 04:40 PM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 

Originally Posted by vader83 (Post 227853)
I had the 12 volt battery replaced by the dealer the other day and now my drivers door wont unlock with the fob or the electric locks inside. It will lock though. I am tyring to find out if anyone has seen this before so i can complain to the dealership about being charged for it. I can not prove the issue wasnt there before they replaced the battery.

I had this happen when I took my '09 FEH in for carpet and seat damage from a chlorine spill. The fob that was with the FEH would not work when I got it back but the other one I had still worked. They had to reprogram the front seats after removing them and this must have screwed up that fob programming.

Take your FEH back and I'm sure they will take care of it for free. You will need both of your fobs for them to reprogram them again. They told me it would take a hour to fix it. I need to still get it done.

GaryG

vader83 09-24-2010 06:40 PM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 
It isnt just the fob that doesnt work though. It is also when you physically press the unlock in the car that it doesnt unlock.

I think resetting the fob is easy, it is just a sequence that i am sure you can find online. I used to know how to do it, but it has been too long since i needed to. I did it for my 03 escape a few years back.

RiverRat37 10-07-2010 07:57 PM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 
I just bought a new fob (eBay). The programming is child's (pre-fifth grader) play.
Turn the ignition to ON (not start). Then, turn it OFF and ON EIGHT times in less that 20 seconds. (you will hear and see some indication that you're in programming mode) Then push ANY button on the FOB (you'll see and hear the same thing again). DONE.
If you have more FOB's then push any button on each of them too (within 5 seconds, each)
Piece of cake!

bjjb 11-03-2010 06:37 PM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 
this exact thing happened to me this week with my 2006 ford escape. i replaced the battery two days ago, and the driver's side door does not unlock with the key fob or with the electrical lock button. so, were you able to find out what the answer is? (noticing a pattern...)

biosman 08-12-2011 02:15 PM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 

Originally Posted by bjjb (Post 229041)
this exact thing happened to me this week with my 2006 ford escape. i replaced the battery two days ago, and the driver's side door does not unlock with the key fob or with the electrical lock button. so, were you able to find out what the answer is? (noticing a pattern...)

This exact thing happened to me. Any solutions?

GaryG 08-12-2011 02:35 PM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 
My problem ended up to be chlorine that damaged my carpet and seats also got on my hands and ended up corroding my fob inside.

The problem I'm hearing here sounds like the Smart Junction box (SJB) or bad fuse. I'd check all the fuses in the SJB and the fuses in the Battery Junction Box (BJB) first.

GaryG

elborak 08-20-2012 07:35 PM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 
Did anyone who was experiencing this problem get it resolved?

I'm having the exact same symptoms. 12V battery died today. Just replaced it. Everything seems fine except the power unlock of the driver's door, either from the door switch or the fob. I can unlock manually, but power unlock of just that door is not working. Power lock works fine.

I did turn up the following via Google: http://www.justanswer.com/ford/52182...rd-escape.html and
http://www.justanswer.com/ford/53fhs...pe-hybrid.html

econoline 08-20-2012 08:44 PM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 
You might try reprogramming the Power Door Lock/Unlock features per the owner's manual. Maybe part of that programming was lost when the battery was replaced.

elborak 08-20-2012 08:57 PM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 

Originally Posted by econoline (Post 244101)
You might try reprogramming the Power Door Lock/Unlock features per the owner's manual. Maybe part of that programming was lost when the battery was replaced.

I'd considered that, and have printed out that section of the manual. However even the Smart Unlock feature doesn't work, and that's not something you can reprogram (so far as I know).

Web consensus seems to be an SJB problem due to a power spike when changing the battery. Whether it just needs to be reprogrammed by the dealer or replaced is the $10K question.

econoline 08-20-2012 09:09 PM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 

Originally Posted by elborak (Post 244103)
However even the Smart Unlock feature doesn't work, and that's not something you can reprogram (so far as I know).

There is a 9 step procedure in the manual to activate/deactivate the autolock feature. What happens if you follow that procedure? Do you get the horn chirp to confirm programming mode?

elborak 08-20-2012 09:33 PM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 

Originally Posted by econoline (Post 244104)
There is a 9 step procedure in the manual to activate/deactivate the autolock feature. What happens if you follow that procedure? Do you get the horn chirp to confirm programming mode?

I'll be trying that in the morning, but I think the Smart Unlock not working is a bad sign.

Tim K 08-23-2012 06:56 AM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 
I'd try disconnecting the negative battery cable for a minute and then plugging it back in. I replaced my battery recently, and although my locks worked fine it caused a hiccup with the ABS system. Disconnecting and reconnecting the battery corrected the problem.

elborak 08-23-2012 09:18 AM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 

Originally Posted by Tim K (Post 244154)
I'd try disconnecting the negative battery cable for a minute and then plugging it back in.

Tried that. No change.

I have an appointment with the dealer for next Monday. I'll update sometime after that to report the result. I'm ~95% sure it's the SJB based on other Internet reports, but what's not clear is whether a reset/reprogram is sufficient or whether it needs to be replaced.

elborak 08-27-2012 07:19 AM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 
Dealer confirmed that it's the SJB. Needs to be replaced. Part on order.

Cautionary tale here... the SJB is apparently quite sensitive to voltage spikes, so be very careful connecting the 12V battery. I may even go so far as to recommend having a battery replacement done by your dealer as they would then be responsible if they blow the SJB.

Edit: I have come across another report from someone who claims there was a TSB on this (no number given) and that the cause isn't a voltage spike but from the low voltage condition when the battery dies. Anyone have a list of TSBs they could check?

elborak 08-31-2012 10:25 AM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 
Final update.

Had the Smart Junction Box replaced today and all is well (other than my wallet).

One final observation, for the sake of future readers of this thread. I've had two occasions when I've had the battery on my FEH run down; once when it was able to be recharged (though I suspect the writing was on the wall) and the more recent instance when the battery failed altogether. In both cases, the car began making a cycle of clicking noises from under the hood, much like a relay constantly cycling. In hindsight, what I think happens is that when the SJB experiences a low voltage condition, one or more of the relays it houses starts cycling. My conjecture is that this is hard on the relay and can lead to a SJB failure.

So my advice (based solely on the conjecture above) is that if your battery gets low and you start hearing a relay clicking, you may wish to pull the negative battery lead to avoid damage to the SJB.

econoline 08-31-2012 12:32 PM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 
Doesn't disconnecting the 12v battery cause the loss of the fuel trim and brake calibration settings? I thought the procedure was to backup the 12v bus with a 9v battery through the console power outlet before disconnecting the 12v battery. I even bought a tool to do that but haven't had to use it yet but probably will soon.

elborak 08-31-2012 12:39 PM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 

Originally Posted by econoline (Post 244291)
Doesn't disconnecting the 12v battery cause the loss of the fuel trim and brake calibration settings?

Yes, it does. But if you're about to replace the battery anyway...

I thought the procedure was to backup the 12v bus with a 9v battery through the console power outlet before disconnecting the 12v battery.
I've done that before (not on my FEH) with mixed results. You have to make sure you turn off every discretionary load (dome light, radio, anything plugged into the power outlets) and even then it only works if the load from the engine electronics is low enough. That technique used to work quite well in the old days, before advanced electronics. These days it's more hit-or-miss.

Oh, and don't forget to use the non-switched outlet... ;)

wptski 08-31-2012 04:04 PM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 
They sell a cord with a OBD-II connector at one end and a cigarette lighter adapter at the other for use with a jump pack which will handle anything. I have one but have never used it yet.

econoline 08-31-2012 04:47 PM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 

Originally Posted by wptski (Post 244302)
They sell a cord with a OBD-II connector at one end and a cigarette lighter adapter at the other for use with a jump pack which will handle anything. I have one but have never used it yet.

Is it like this one? http://www.ebay.com/itm/K-Tool-74308...ht_2385wt_1398

Makes sense that a little 9v battery wouldn't be able to handle this.

So, is it a problem if I don't preserve the memory when I replace the 12v battery? Or is using this device a good idea?

elborak 08-31-2012 07:47 PM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 

Originally Posted by econoline (Post 244303)
is it a problem if I don't preserve the memory when I replace the 12v battery? Or is using this device a good idea?

This certainly has a better likelihood to work than the 9V ones. And it's certainly convenient if it lets you avoid having to reset you audio setup. But the only real "cost" of not bothering is somewhat sub-optimal mileage on your next tank or so while the trim levels are relearned.

wptski 09-01-2012 05:04 AM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 

Originally Posted by econoline (Post 244303)
Is it like this one? http://www.ebay.com/itm/K-Tool-74308...ht_2385wt_1398

Makes sense that a little 9v battery wouldn't be able to handle this.

So, is it a problem if I don't preserve the memory when I replace the 12v battery? Or is using this device a good idea?

Yes except mine is a Solar brand. One thing that must be watched if your using anything like this is that your positive battery is going to be hot or powered when you remove so it can be shorted out. This isn't mentioned in the instruction sheet and seems like it should be.

The audio system was mentioned but my dealer replaced my battery during a series of visits for a transaxle leak and it wasn't on my paperwork. I didn't lose any radio stations. Maybe they used something like that or the radio stations aren't lost.

The relearning is more of a problem with older vehicles that are worn out.

econoline 09-01-2012 01:29 PM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 

Originally Posted by wptski (Post 244311)
One thing that must be watched if your using anything like this is that your positive battery is going to be hot or powered when you remove so it can be shorted out.

I hadn't considered that. So if the + battery terminal were accidentally shorted, would something on the OBD bus be damaged since that's where the jumper battery is connected? Maybe it's better to just connect my jump pack battery directly to the underhood battery terminal so that any shorts wouldn't be back through the vehicle electronics.

wptski 09-01-2012 05:16 PM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 

Originally Posted by econoline (Post 244318)
I hadn't considered that. So if the + battery terminal were accidentally shorted, would something on the OBD bus be damaged since that's where the jumper battery is connected? Maybe it's better to just connect my jump pack battery directly to the underhood battery terminal so that any shorts wouldn't be back through the vehicle electronics.

The wiring for the OBD-II is designed to power it only so the wires aren't made for a dead short but nothing really is?? A slight tap on ground wouldn't but a prolonged short to ground wouldn't melt the wires. I've seen a dead short on a two cell "AA" Ni-MH holder melt the end of holder right off! It only took 10-15 seconds.

You could do that but yours dealing with an extra cables getting in your way. Just stick the positive cable in a leather glove and tape it up or zip tie it so it doesn't slip off.

prototype3a 09-02-2012 11:06 AM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 
This might be a silly question but what happens if you swap 12v batteries with the car running?

Additionally, has anyone considered replacing the stock battery with a deep cycle battery. The FEH doesn't use the 12v as a starting battery to turn over the engine with a starter motor anyway so why use one designed for that in the first place? I would imagine a sealed AGM type battery would last much longer and as a bonus you could listen to your radio with the engine off for a long long time.

RiverRat37 09-02-2012 11:31 AM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 
There has been much posted elsewhere about 12V batteries in the FEH. If memory serves me right the general consensus is that going with a "better" battery will not return the value. All batteries "go" eventually and the extra expense for a "better" one is not worth it. And deep cycle batteries are not sensible for this usage. I've found the factory ones to last at least 6 years, sometimes more. Save your money for something more worthwhile, is my suggestion.

wptski 09-02-2012 11:33 AM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 

Originally Posted by prototype3a (Post 244333)
This might be a silly question but what happens if you swap 12v batteries with the car running?

Additionally, has anyone considered replacing the stock battery with a deep cycle battery. The FEH doesn't use the 12v as a starting battery to turn over the engine with a starter motor anyway so why use one designed for that in the first place? I would imagine a sealed AGM type battery would last much longer and as a bonus you could listen to your radio with the engine off for a long long time.

A modern vehicle won't run without a battery and disconnecting a running vehicle could cause a voltage spike.

prototype3a 09-02-2012 05:02 PM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 

Originally Posted by RiverRat37 (Post 244335)
There has been much posted elsewhere about 12V batteries in the FEH. If memory serves me right the general consensus is that going with a "better" battery will not return the value. All batteries "go" eventually and the extra expense for a "better" one is not worth it. And deep cycle batteries are not sensible for this usage. I've found the factory ones to last at least 6 years, sometimes more. Save your money for something more worthwhile, is my suggestion.

How is a deep cycle battery not sensible? The car doesn't use it to start the engine. Serious 12v power is supplied by the HVDC/DC converter. I'm not suggesting buying an Optima or anything daft like that. I could get a suitably sized AGM type deep cycle for about $100 or so. Honestly, I have no idea what the stock battery cost. I did have to replace mine a few years ago and I suspect mine is about to die again but I don't remember what it cost.

RiverRat37 09-02-2012 05:35 PM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 
The way you use the battery in an FEH is not deep-cycling, no matter what (OK, so if you have those huge drivers for speakers and play mind-numbing bass stuff for hours with the car turned all the way off .... then .... perhaps .... maybe. But you shouldn't be disturbing the neighborhood that way in any case.) The extra cost is a waste. And besides, deep-cycle batteries are "supposed" to be deep-cycled and you won't be doing that hardly ever. The standard OEM battery is as good as it gets for this car. And ... another thing, you'll most likely have to work to find a deep cycle battery that fits. It's an old size (at least in some years). There's a time for the very best and this isn't one of them. Save your money.
Buy a nice little portable radio with a couple of "D" cells and you'll be just fine. ;-)

econoline 09-02-2012 05:50 PM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 
The Optima Yellow Top is $140, about $40 more than an OEM, and it's a perfect fit in the FEH. The Red Top might be slightly less. I won't buy unsealed batteries anymore, just too messy, they alway corrode the battery tray over time.

GaryG 09-03-2012 08:25 AM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 

Originally Posted by RiverRat37 (Post 244341)
The way you use the battery in an FEH is not deep-cycling, no matter what (OK, so if you have those huge drivers for speakers and play mind-numbing bass stuff for hours with the car turned all the way off .... then .... perhaps .... maybe. But you shouldn't be disturbing the neighborhood that way in any case.) The extra cost is a waste. And besides, deep-cycle batteries are "supposed" to be deep-cycled and you won't be doing that hardly ever. The standard OEM battery is as good as it gets for this car. And ... another thing, you'll most likely have to work to find a deep cycle battery that fits. It's an old size (at least in some years). There's a time for the very best and this isn't one of them. Save your money.
Buy a nice little portable radio with a couple of "D" cells and you'll be just fine. ;-)

I agree!

GaryG

GatorJ 09-04-2012 02:04 PM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 

Originally Posted by econoline (Post 244342)
I won't buy unsealed batteries anymore, just too messy, they alway corrode the battery tray over time.


I use Optima Red Tops in all my vehicles...no out-gassing, no corrosion on battery terminals, no corroded battery trays, etc.

prototype3a 09-04-2012 06:13 PM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 
I won't buy an Optima anything since the company changed owners and their products aren't what they used to be.

However, I've heard another company reverse engineered their batteries and now produces a superior product... Unfortunately, I forgot the name.

econoline 09-06-2012 12:18 PM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 

Originally Posted by GatorJ (Post 244372)
I use Optima Red Tops in all my vehicles...no out-gassing, no corrosion on battery terminals, no corroded battery trays, etc.

Gator, do you happen to know what size Optima you have in the FEH? Did it fit perfectly or did the base have to be trimmed? I'm pretty sure the D35 is the right size for the FEH.

GatorJ 09-07-2012 12:25 PM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 

Originally Posted by econoline (Post 244424)
Gator, do you happen to know what size Optima you have in the FEH? Did it fit perfectly or did the base have to be trimmed? I'm pretty sure the D35 is the right size for the FEH. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=ATVPDKIKX0DER


I have the Red Top 35. It was a direct drop-in for my 2006 FEH...zero modifications.

jaclins 07-01-2015 07:25 AM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 

Originally Posted by elborak (Post 244290)
Final update.

Had the Smart Junction Box replaced today and all is well (other than my wallet).

One final observation, for the sake of future readers of this thread. I've had two occasions when I've had the battery on my FEH run down; once when it was able to be recharged (though I suspect the writing was on the wall) and the more recent instance when the battery failed altogether. In both cases, the car began making a cycle of clicking noises from under the hood, much like a relay constantly cycling. In hindsight, what I think happens is that when the SJB experiences a low voltage condition, one or more of the relays it houses starts cycling. My conjecture is that this is hard on the relay and can lead to a SJB failure.

So my advice (based solely on the conjecture above) is that if your battery gets low and you start hearing a relay clicking, you may wish to pull the negative battery lead to avoid damage to the SJB.


Hey, On my 2006, when I go out to my car and click the unlock button on the FOB, I here clicking from under the hood that last about 3 seconds, stops, then does it again for about 3 seconds. Then it wont do it again. The car starts up just fine every time. I do have the wrench light/service soon lights on and have already changed the blend door actuator.

What is that clicking that is coming from under the hood and how can I fix it?

Thanks,
Jeff

elborak 07-06-2015 10:09 PM

Re: 2006 Escape Hybrid, driver door lock doesnt unlock after batter replaced
 

Originally Posted by jaclins (Post 256940)
On my 2006, when I go out to my car and click the unlock button on the FOB, I here clicking from under the hood that last about 3 seconds, stops, then does it again for about 3 seconds. Then it wont do it again. The car starts up just fine every time. I do have the wrench light/service soon lights on and have already changed the blend door actuator.

What is that clicking that is coming from under the hood and how can I fix it?

Is it actually a clicking sound, or more like a pump running briefly? If the latter, it's almost surely just the hybrid brakes pressurizing, which is normal.

Does it always do it, or only if the car has been off for ~5 minutes or more?


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